Jon Tester: “Something is not happening here, though.”

There's plenty of examples of it. The Mission Act is a prime example. The fastest growing part of the V.A. budget. Why? Because we privatizing V.A. health care and its costing us more money, not less.

It is so really, really important that you guys have the home Senators on board for this stuff.

That's between me and the ballot box.

I would say two things. Number one this administration has totally blown the opportunity to make government more efficient by going in with a -- with a -- with a meat cleaver and just hack up agencies.