Jon Tester: “Given that knowledge, were you surprised by Mr. Tourre's statement that the Abacus deal was similar to others in terms…”

That's between me and the ballot box.

This is -- what's gone on the last two weeks or so, 10 days, has been nothing short of craziness.

I would say two things. Number one this administration has totally blown the opportunity to make government more efficient by going in with a -- with a -- with a meat cleaver and just hack up agencies.

Was totally figuratively speaking.