Jon Tester: “We shouldn't have to depend upon the military to do that.”

There's plenty of examples of it. The Mission Act is a prime example. The fastest growing part of the V.A. budget. Why? Because we privatizing V.A. health care and its costing us more money, not less.

I think we need to take these things seriously. I think the president and I think, more importantly, the military are taking it very, very seriously.

In the end, do you think you can deliver this at or less of a cost the pipeline would have run you?

Well, I think it's really bad. All you got to do is look at the market. But the truth is, is that if you're a businessman, you understand that what you need in the marketplace is certainty.