Jon Tester actually said...

Are there people that you have oversight over, yourselves included, that have VA credit cards; and are there rules as to how those cards can...

I mean, one of the things that really gets the VA off to a bad start is if the first person they talk to is a machine.

I really do think it revolves around health care.

I think that if there were some dollars for incentives, we could get them in.