Claire McCaskill: “This country is incredibly blessed by the men and women who step across the line and say, 'Take me.'”

He's focused on himself?

This is never a referendum. Presidential elections, by the time they run around, is always, 'well, who do you like slightly better than the two you don't like?' So it is a binary choice.

Candidly, he probably would, because what Trump and DeSantis having figured out is they have to win a general.

I'm always optimistic. And I do think this is brutal. And people who think that body cams on police officers are not doing what they should, I get that. This young man died. But we now know exactly what happened. So, it does make a…