Claire McCaskill: “But I do think that we have played fast and loose, and sometimes sloppy, with the way we have spent this money.”

I have won when the polls said I couldn't and I have lost when the polls said I would win, so I am not a big believer in all of the horse race stuff.

Oh I think – you cannot compare DeSantis to people who have been tested on a national stage, like Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. This guy's not ready. He declared war, and he doesn't even know what victory is, against Mickey Mouse. Give…

He's focused on himself?

I think that, fundamentally, voters do understand that we have very, very low unemployment. They see it in their families, that everybody has jobs, everybody can get jobs, their jobs are paying slightly better.