09/18/2017
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"But, we have incumbents all the time and the auditors do not find that there was an unfair advantage."
"It is, in fact, that for people who were going to do that anyway, somebody was paid who did not deserve it."
"I will guarantee you this. I am going to yell at the top of my lungs if somebody tries to roll out this program without fraud control in it again."
"I get the kickback part. I get that a recruiter could easily set up 15 recruiters' assistants who were all his good friends or family members."