04/14/2015
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"It does not do any good for us to have all this in place if you have these kind of numbers in terms of money going out the door."
"You have probably got money stashed no telling where, and we are going to take $5 million from you and you are going to walk away."
"When can you quit paying them?"
"That is like me seeing a penny over there and saying, boy, I picked it up. Pay me for it."