12/17/2013
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"I find it astonishing that agencies do not consider whether it is cheaper to use contractors or Federal employees before deciding whether to award a contract."
"And I do not think the Department of Defense thinks they can get us that number until 2016 at the earliest."
"That is $20 billion. That is some significant change."
"Anyone who believes we cannot find savings in the Department of Defense around contracting does not know the issue."