Claire McCaskill: “It may be that it's helping get the voluntary standards, the fact that this is out there, and I understand the efficacy…”

Oh I think – you cannot compare DeSantis to people who have been tested on a national stage, like Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. This guy's not ready. He declared war, and he doesn't even know what victory is, against Mickey Mouse. Give…

He's focused on himself?

I hope, I hope, I hope Matt keeps saying that everywhere he goes, that abortion really isn't an issue in this election.

I'm always optimistic. And I do think this is brutal. And people who think that body cams on police officers are not doing what they should, I get that. This young man died. But we now know exactly what happened. So, it does make a…