03/14/2011
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"I know you cannot just say, OK, this is the contracting puba over here; and if anything goes wrong, it is his head, or her head."
"I do not think anybody realizes that your testimony just now in my world, balloons should have dropped from the ceiling, because when I started in this, no one knew any of that."
"at what point do we throw in the towel?"
"Let me give you an opportunity, Mr. Ginman, to explain how in the world this thing got built when the people on the ground were saying stop, do not do this, we do not need it, and it will not be used."