04/26/2010
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"And if we can reduce health care costs by 10 percent meaningfully, by 10 percent, we do amazing things to both our deficit and our long-term debt curve."
"Well, I think that is something we need to look into."
"I think it is fair, if everyone would agree, that we can use a ballpark figure of $10 billion."
"if you do the math on our debt and deficit, you come to the inescapable conclusion that the debt and deficit is health care."