Claire McCaskill: “History is going to be kind to Liz Cheney, history is going to be cruel to other Republicans.”

He's focused on himself?

I'm always optimistic. And I do think this is brutal. And people who think that body cams on police officers are not doing what they should, I get that. This young man died. But we now know exactly what happened. So, it does make a…

Oh I think – you cannot compare DeSantis to people who have been tested on a national stage, like Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. This guy's not ready. He declared war, and he doesn't even know what victory is, against Mickey Mouse. Give…

This is never a referendum. Presidential elections, by the time they run around, is always, 'well, who do you like slightly better than the two you don't like?' So it is a binary choice.