Claire McCaskill: “That would be a reasonable place for us to do the research about the average amount that is used.”

This is never a referendum. Presidential elections, by the time they run around, is always, 'well, who do you like slightly better than the two you don't like?' So it is a binary choice.

Oh I think – you cannot compare DeSantis to people who have been tested on a national stage, like Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. This guy's not ready. He declared war, and he doesn't even know what victory is, against Mickey Mouse. Give…

He's focused on himself?

He has shown tremendous strength in terms of unifying NATO.