Claire McCaskill: “But you understand the point I'm making?”

He's focused on himself?

Oh I think – you cannot compare DeSantis to people who have been tested on a national stage, like Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. This guy's not ready. He declared war, and he doesn't even know what victory is, against Mickey Mouse. Give…

This is never a referendum. Presidential elections, by the time they run around, is always, 'well, who do you like slightly better than the two you don't like?' So it is a binary choice.

Well, first, I want everybody to slow down a little bit. We are still the underdogs in this election. And I am speaking as someone in 2018, we picked up 40 seats in the House but we still lost four senators.