Kit Bond: “I assure you, Mr. Administrator, we will have to do that.”

That number needs to be publicized because that is the greatest prophylactic to let people know if they are going to do it.

We are drowning in debt, and buying our way out is not working.

You mentioned that you are still confident in the official $5.8 billion estimate or whatever it was that OMB came up with.

to quote an earlier comment by Senator Bond, "skin in the game"