I just--and I am trying to get this, and you are hearing the frustration.

The biggest mistake here was, it does not feel to me that there was enough of that input.

Now, that is very difficult for me to explain to my producers in any way possible, and you are not making that case.

If a farmer builds a fence that does not comply with NRCS standards, the cloud then is that he has violated the Clean Water Act.

we should show great concern that our producers are showing this level of concern

I just had a couple questions for me and for others listening who might not know this.

We are all open to new techniques. I have seen our folks work hand in hand with NRCS and we have heard great success stories.

I am just wondering if in the process now is not too poisoned or whatever you might say to go forward.

From a sportsman's perspective, Mr. Kovarovics, how do we reach this compromise?

Let me be clear, I am not opposed to these standards, having advocated for them in the past, however I am concerned that imposing them as a qualification for exemption has the potential to lead to significant disincentives for conservation…

I know my colleague gave a kind introduction and associated you and I together as friends, but I think Harry Truman was right.