Jim Hagedorn: “We just can't have that in the United States anymore.”

I am somebody who has been a pretty strong supporter of employee-owned businesses and co-ops.

It is going to drive up cost and it is going to make it less reliable.

This whole equity stuff needs to go away. This woke stuff needs to go away.

I don't think this bill that is coming along, $3.5 trillion, whatever it is, with all sorts of taxes, regulations, higher cost energy, I mean, I don't know a small business out there that says higher-cost energy is going to do the trick.