Gary Peters actually said...

So I'm asking these questions because I also want to make sure that we're coordinating properly between the Coast Guard, PHMSA, all the agen...

So you're significantly increasing both civil penalties and potentially criminal penalties for doing that?

Well, that's good. I appreciate that. We definitely need to continue to move forward on that.

I have not always agreed with the company's approach, and believe that as a result of the disaster in Kalamazoo, there is a significant defi...