Debbie Stabenow: “The popular Rural Energy for America Program, known as REAP, helps producers and businesses lower their utility bills.”

Not when you go to the grocery store, no, that is certainly not. And then we add support for food banks. We add additional assistance and incentives if you are buying fresh fruits and vegetables. We do, you know, some other kinds of…

There is no question. And we also have extensive evidence that when a bill is put forward on the floor that cuts the nutrition title, it never passes--2012 in the House, 2018 in the House. When Republican colleagues only put a bill on the…

We have a very strong bench in Michigan.

Yes. Now, we could pass an extension again and throw this into the lap of everyone next year. That doesn't create any more certainty for farmers. Those who want to just do some ad hoc payments, you know, that is not going to work. And so…