Debbie Stabenow actually said...

"If pensions are going to be cut, then those people's salaries and benefits should be cut as well."

"I think there is a broader discussion that needs to happen here about the undermining of the middle class in this country by undermining the pension system."

"a promise is a promise, and so it needs to be kept."

"I also think that we should not see pension funds being used to lobby."