Carl Levin actually said...

And were you or your staff aware at the time that Moody's was working on the ABACUS rating that Paulson was shorting the assets in ABACUS?

Was there a delay in putting that new model in place?

IBG-YBG was explained to me to mean, 'I'll be gone, you'll be gone.'

It seems to me, is going to shake up folks that are listening to this testimony as to how much these credit ratings can be relied on.