Carl Levin actually said...

It should affect the analysis, as you indicate, but it did not affect the analysis here.

So, in this case, these ratings were downgraded within a year and are now below investment grade. These are junk.

And have you seen reports that the Paulson firm shorted the ABACUS transaction using Goldman Sachs as its agent?

I objected to it being the driver. I went ahead and tried to prevent us from what I believed was committing securities fraud.