Carl Levin actually said...

Now, in your statement, Mr. Killinger, you described how the Office of Thrift Supervision was on site at WaMu and approved of WaMu's actions...

I think you would agree, contributed to the reduction in the criteria--the loosening of the criteria for these products.

He is laying out the risks as he sees them in the pool.

Excuse me for interrupting because we do not have that much time, but I just wanted to go into the numbers.