Angus King actually said...

I think I want to emphasize that, because there's a grave danger.

It doesn't have to be shipped across the ocean or----

Well, I think it is important too because that is a benefit that is hard to quantify, but if you add the transportation costs and the energy...

I have always thought one of the important parts about pellets and this whole use of wood energy is, and you made this point, this is energy...