Nancy Gertner: “what he is doing and trying to do is lawless from top to bottom, and it would be shocking if judges did not respond.”

This is just pushing back on the judiciary, and then, when the judiciary does what they don’t want them to do, and the judiciary says this is wrong, trying to delegitimize that decision.

I would call it a coup.

I don't think there's any question that he himself is under investigation for violations of the Espionage Act.

this is power, it seems to me, that is baked into the Constitution and cannot be taken away.