John Kerry: “Let me say to my colleague, I do not contest that we at times have been lied to. I never asserted otherwise. I am trying…”

“Let me say to my colleague, I do not contest that we at times have been lied to. I never asserted otherwise. I am trying to create a structure where we can create an accountability where there is not a lie. As I said at the outset of my comments, there is nothing in the approach of myself, Senator McCain, Senator Murkowski, and others, that is based on trust. We would be fools if this was based on trust. This is based on a process of how you verify. But let me say to my colleague--he says, you know, we know what they have or do not have. We know that they had certain records. We do not know that they have them today. We cannot prove them today. No one can prove they have them today. The only way we are going to prove they have them today is by getting into the process and discovering them and finding someone who is going to give us a smoking gun. We can make all the conjecture we want about what they do and do not have. The truth is we are not going to know unless we are there, and that is the bottom line.”