I think in the next few years we're going to be spending a lot of time, Ali, not only worried about how do we restore ourselves internally. But this question of America within the world is also very important.

Now we've become the biggest debtors in the world. It does give China more power vis-a-vis the United States.

The White House has got to play a very forceful role of negotiations to get this done.

Yes, it's just a spoonful of bipartisanship, Anderson. It's not a bucket.

I think there's going to be a fairly forceful clash next week after all the House Democrats voted unanimously for their bill.

Ultimately they need to get the House to vote again in favor and the Senate to vote again in favor.

And I think there's going to be a fairly forceful clash next week.

I do not think the stimulus bill is out of reach for him.

It's all about getting this thing passed, getting the 60 votes, Anderson, so they can shut off any possibility of a filibuster.

Had they brought the Republicans in on the House side and had more of a bipartisan bill coming out of the House to begin with and the president had forced that through, he'd be in a stronger position with the country now.

I feel very strongly that way, that, if he's going to make this bipartisan, he's going to have to say no to some of these marginal Democratic programs.