David Gergen: “Ultimately they need to get the House to vote again in favor and the Senate to vote again in favor.”

I think the signs are just as Margaret says. They are saying that he is increasingly interested. Strikingly, Anderson, his interest seems to intensify when he sees Biden in trouble.

It would have almost Shakespearean qualities to it.

It is vital that as President, tell his base and tell the whole country that he believes Joe Biden is a legitimate President, that he has not been put there by fraud.

I think the turning point that came were the midterm elections. The fever broke with those midterm elections. And what we've seen since then is a steady decline in Trump's credibility and in his position with the American people, and a…