David Gergen: “I think he is. I think, certainly, the positions that he's taken on abortion and on guns suggest to many voters, I think…”

But I think, to go to David Urban's point, what was she calling about? Well, she was calling, she testified, because she thought there was fraud that had been committed, and had not yet been explored, and that it ought to be studied before…

It's increasingly hard to govern.

It is vital that as President, tell his base and tell the whole country that he believes Joe Biden is a legitimate President, that he has not been put there by fraud.

It's very, very big. Not legally, but politically, it's a very, very big deal.