David Gergen: “Symbolic. You know, Tom Foreman just said, he talked about the president bringing an ax to the budget. Unfortunately, it…”

I don't think Trump is out of the woods, even though his poll numbers are not only staying up, they have actually been strengthened some.

If he had a receptive audience, and I will tell you, when everything -- when all the facts were to come out, it would be like Nixon and the tapes.

It's very, very big. Not legally, but politically, it's a very, very big deal.

But I think, to go to David Urban's point, what was she calling about? Well, she was calling, she testified, because she thought there was fraud that had been committed, and had not yet been explored, and that it ought to be studied before…