David Gergen: “I think this lowers our sense of what politics we're just down in the muck.”

I think a lot of Americans do see it as disqualifying. And they're worried about it.

I think this the very idea that in 2024, we may have two men running against each other Biden and Trump, who would both be in their 80s if elected, that it too is enough to say, well, what are we doing here?

But I think, to go to David Urban's point, what was she calling about? Well, she was calling, she testified, because she thought there was fraud that had been committed, and had not yet been explored, and that it ought to be studied before…

You can't out-Nixon Nixon very easily, but Donald Trump has.