David Gergen: “He has drawn upon these debates to help transform the race. He's in a commanding position now.”

If he had a receptive audience, and I will tell you, when everything -- when all the facts were to come out, it would be like Nixon and the tapes.

It's very, very big. Not legally, but politically, it's a very, very big deal.

But I think, to go to David Urban's point, what was she calling about? Well, she was calling, she testified, because she thought there was fraud that had been committed, and had not yet been explored, and that it ought to be studied before…

Sadly, you know, I think for a variety of reasons he should not. I just, I don't think either Trump or Biden should be running.