David Gergen: “The reason they didn't have the big -- didn't have the turnout they're looking for because they didn't have enough…”

I think a lot of Americans do see it as disqualifying. And they're worried about it.

You can't out-Nixon Nixon very easily, but Donald Trump has.

But I think, to go to David Urban's point, what was she calling about? Well, she was calling, she testified, because she thought there was fraud that had been committed, and had not yet been explored, and that it ought to be studied before…

Sadly, you know, I think for a variety of reasons he should not. I just, I don't think either Trump or Biden should be running.