David Gergen: “Yes. Yes. It's -- well, we do that all the time.”

He is a leader there's no question about that. But I think he's a bad leader. I think he's leaving his people into, he's leading the country, especially into a very bad place.

I think a lot of Americans do see it as disqualifying. And they're worried about it.

If he had a receptive audience, and I will tell you, when everything -- when all the facts were to come out, it would be like Nixon and the tapes.

You can't out-Nixon Nixon very easily, but Donald Trump has.