David Gergen: “This administration is saying we're not going to go bargain with these people anymore. We're going to get tough.”

The Trump administration is in the courts, and it is very clear they have failed miserably.

But I think, to go to David Urban's point, what was she calling about? Well, she was calling, she testified, because she thought there was fraud that had been committed, and had not yet been explored, and that it ought to be studied before…

No, their problem is Anderson, he's got more support back in their districts in their states than they do and that gives him enormous -- it gives him enormous leverage against them.

Maintaining the status quo with regard to the filibuster is unacceptable for him.