David Gergen: “There were three Democrats who voted to bring the charges and two Republicans who opposed that.”

I think the Republicans need to have an intervention.

I think the signs are just as Margaret says. They are saying that he is increasingly interested. Strikingly, Anderson, his interest seems to intensify when he sees Biden in trouble.

It's increasingly hard to govern.

I think this the very idea that in 2024, we may have two men running against each other Biden and Trump, who would both be in their 80s if elected, that it too is enough to say, well, what are we doing here?