Yes, Mark -- and Anderson, Mark he was also underscoring something that's really important here. As Rudy Giuliani has taken -- has been more forthright about his positions on abortion and on gay rights and the like, especially abortion.
Gergen emphasizes the importance of Giuliani's positions on social issues and their impact on his campaign.
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I think a lot of Americans do see it as disqualifying. And they're worried about it.
I think the turning point that came were the midterm elections. The fever broke with those midterm elections. And what we've seen since then is a steady decline in Trump's credibility and in his position with the American people, and a…
Sadly, you know, I think for a variety of reasons he should not. I just, I don't think either Trump or Biden should be running.
I think this the very idea that in 2024, we may have two men running against each other Biden and Trump, who would both be in their 80s if elected, that it too is enough to say, well, what are we doing here?
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