Yes, Mark -- and Anderson, Mark he was also underscoring something that's really important here. As Rudy Giuliani has taken -- has been more forthright about his positions on abortion and on gay rights and the like, especially abortion.
Gergen emphasizes the importance of Giuliani's positions on social issues and their impact on his campaign.
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