David Gergen: “This president, you know, is nothing, if not resolute and, let me say, overly stubborn and in denial about the nature of…”

But I think, to go to David Urban's point, what was she calling about? Well, she was calling, she testified, because she thought there was fraud that had been committed, and had not yet been explored, and that it ought to be studied before…

I think the turning point that came were the midterm elections. The fever broke with those midterm elections. And what we've seen since then is a steady decline in Trump's credibility and in his position with the American people, and a…

If he had a receptive audience, and I will tell you, when everything -- when all the facts were to come out, it would be like Nixon and the tapes.

The midterms really helped him. They transformed the race, best midterm elections for any president in 20 years.