It gives the granular view is much more sobering and distressing than what we had heard before today. I think the details show you this became a cesspool. Our own State Department became a cesspool.
Gergen comments on the released transcripts, describing the situation within the State Department as troubling.
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I think a lot of Americans do see it as disqualifying. And they're worried about it.
I think this the very idea that in 2024, we may have two men running against each other Biden and Trump, who would both be in their 80s if elected, that it too is enough to say, well, what are we doing here?
If he had a receptive audience, and I will tell you, when everything -- when all the facts were to come out, it would be like Nixon and the tapes.
It's very, very big. Not legally, but politically, it's a very, very big deal.
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