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I was out in Wisconsin, spent a couple of days out there a couple of weeks ago, John. And I can tell you a lot of people, small business people in particular, were talking about that these unions are costing too much money.

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David Gergen shares insights from his visit to Wisconsin, highlighting concerns from small business owners about the costs associated with unions.

06/04/2012

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