David Gergen: “I do think that General Kelly has more leverage than anybody else who's been around. You know, if he walks, it will be…”

Maintaining the status quo with regard to the filibuster is unacceptable for him.

No, their problem is Anderson, he's got more support back in their districts in their states than they do and that gives him enormous -- it gives him enormous leverage against them.

But I think, to go to David Urban's point, what was she calling about? Well, she was calling, she testified, because she thought there was fraud that had been committed, and had not yet been explored, and that it ought to be studied before…

I think that really kneecaps the Biden ministration in a significant way.