If President Obama says, 'I am serious about Social Security reform, and I'm even willing to look at Medicare reform', then I think, in taking on his base on those issues, it would -- you cannot cut this deficit sufficiently unless you --
David Gergen emphasizes the importance of President Obama addressing Social Security and Medicare reform to tackle the deficit.
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If he had a receptive audience, and I will tell you, when everything -- when all the facts were to come out, it would be like Nixon and the tapes.
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It's very, very big. Not legally, but politically, it's a very, very big deal.
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