On the other hand, if he comes in with something about collusion, that's much more serious. And if he finds something, frankly, about money laundering by the Trump team, it's and -- put aside Manafort.
Gergen highlights the seriousness of potential charges related to collusion or money laundering against the Trump team.
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The midterms really helped him. They transformed the race, best midterm elections for any president in 20 years.
If he had a receptive audience, and I will tell you, when everything -- when all the facts were to come out, it would be like Nixon and the tapes.
If he comes out and throws cold water on this, then I don't think it goes anywhere.
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