David Gergen: “This was, after all, one of their founding issues.”

If he had a receptive audience, and I will tell you, when everything -- when all the facts were to come out, it would be like Nixon and the tapes.

It's very, very big. Not legally, but politically, it's a very, very big deal.

I think this the very idea that in 2024, we may have two men running against each other Biden and Trump, who would both be in their 80s if elected, that it too is enough to say, well, what are we doing here?

If he comes out and throws cold water on this, then I don't think it goes anywhere.