David Gergen: “They're afraid of the mandate. And they also feel if they're constructive up front, they can avoid some of the worst…”

I think this the very idea that in 2024, we may have two men running against each other Biden and Trump, who would both be in their 80s if elected, that it too is enough to say, well, what are we doing here?

I don't think Trump is out of the woods, even though his poll numbers are not only staying up, they have actually been strengthened some.

It's very, very big. Not legally, but politically, it's a very, very big deal.

I think the turning point that came were the midterm elections. The fever broke with those midterm elections. And what we've seen since then is a steady decline in Trump's credibility and in his position with the American people, and a…