David Gergen: “I think a lot of people are going to look at these pictures and be frightened.”

It would have almost Shakespearean qualities to it.

I think this the very idea that in 2024, we may have two men running against each other Biden and Trump, who would both be in their 80s if elected, that it too is enough to say, well, what are we doing here?

I think that really kneecaps the Biden ministration in a significant way.

No, their problem is Anderson, he's got more support back in their districts in their states than they do and that gives him enormous -- it gives him enormous leverage against them.