David Gergen: “We asked them to stand with us time after time when we think we're threatened, and now they're threatened and we have to…”

But I think, to go to David Urban's point, what was she calling about? Well, she was calling, she testified, because she thought there was fraud that had been committed, and had not yet been explored, and that it ought to be studied before…

I think this the very idea that in 2024, we may have two men running against each other Biden and Trump, who would both be in their 80s if elected, that it too is enough to say, well, what are we doing here?

For Donald Trump to go for a 24-plus hours without a word being said is an outrage in and of itself. This is a man who is seeking the nomination of a major political party, very likely to get it. And now look at the leadership he is…

If he comes out and throws cold water on this, then I don't think it goes anywhere.