David Gergen: “It is -- and the president, very notably -- shifted the emphasis to health insurance reform.”

I think it's going to take something usually unexpected or a dramatic change in his health or a prison sentence to stop him.

But I think, to go to David Urban's point, what was she calling about? Well, she was calling, she testified, because she thought there was fraud that had been committed, and had not yet been explored, and that it ought to be studied before…

It's very, very big. Not legally, but politically, it's a very, very big deal.

he ought to stay out of this.