David Gergen: “It's doubling down your bet, isn't it?”

I think there ought to be a delegation of Republicans like Mitch McConnell who ought to be talking to the President.

I think it's going to take something usually unexpected or a dramatic change in his health or a prison sentence to stop him.

I think, basically, this is about power. I think he wants to cripple Joe Biden before he ever gets started.

I think the signs are just as Margaret says. They are saying that he is increasingly interested. Strikingly, Anderson, his interest seems to intensify when he sees Biden in trouble.